Friday, January 20, 2012

Notes for PA #2 -- They Say

For Monday, I've asked you to read the Preface and Chapter 1 of TSIS. Please do so, and read the book to class. You'll be reading about the basic "They Say" paragraph.

In the meantime, take a careful look at the cartoon on p. 282 of TSIS. Blog a set of notes (not a paragraph analyzing what you think the cartoon says. Look carefully at details in the cartoon and note the ones that support your point of view.

Blog your notes below by Sunday at 5 PM, and bring a hard copy of your notes to class on Monday so that you can write the paragraph in class.

16 comments:

  1. This picture is pretty accurate to how the conversation between Romeo and Juliet would be today. I think Juliet's room is a little messier than most girl's rooms are, and the girl's room is usually cleaner than the boy's room. Most girls don't leave food in their room, at least not the girls I am friends with. But the girl being on her bed, posters all around her, headphones in, phone right beside her, while on her laptop is what most girls do. As for the boy, I think that is also precise with how I picture boys on the computer while talking to a girl, with his room a mess and not really caring because he is talking to the girl he likes.

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  2. The cartoon seems to present Romeo and Juliet as being at that age where teens tend to care less about responsibilities and how they represent themselves. Their grammar is awful, their rooms are extremely messy, Romeo used purple ink on a test, Juliet is failing Spanish, and they are talking about a party on what seems to be a weeknight. Also, both of their parent dont approve of them dating each other. Another point is that Juliet seems to like Romeo more than he likes her. She messages him first and instead of saying goodbye a last time Romeo just says "k."

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  3. This cartoon of Romeo and Juliet is portraying the two lovers as they would be found today, with poor grammar and a lack of caring for things beside themselves
    Both are incredibly messy (rooms) and acting like how any other teenager would (complaining)
    The conversation that the two are having uses horrible grammar
    They seem to be obsessed with their electronics, like most teenagers today
    They are surrounded by their laptop and cell phones, focusing on themselves
    They don’t seem to care much about their academics, and put more emphasis on what party is going to happen next and when they can see each other
    Both of their parents hate the other, but Romeo and Juliet make it out to be no big deal
    Juliet seems to be putting more emphasis into their conversation while Romeo seems to be going along

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  4. Stereotype of teenagers-messy rooms (food everywhere technology everywhere)
    Even though the theme of Romeo and Juliet is still present their grammar is awful (still talk about how their parents don't like the person they like)
    Use typical text/instant message language and the way they shorten their words is how most teenagers do.
    Instead of talking about how much they love each other (like in the original Romeo and Juliet) they just go xoxoxoxoxo
    Their conversation has no depth to it-very basic with no meaning

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  5. The cartoon on these pages are representing a modern day Romeo and Juliet. The modernity is shown through the usage of abbreviated words and sayings, like a texting conversation. Both are incredibly messy and use poor grammar as well as being immersed in their electronics. Like the original, they are planning when they get to see each other next. Finally, their parents do not like each other. Romeo seems to think less of it, where Juliet thinks it's a bigger deal. This is parallel to the original.

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  6. Cartoon Notes

    •Way too much slang and lack of correct spelling and grammar
    •The rooms are messy just like the conversation
    •The sentences are very simplistic and don’t explain much
    •The language used by Romeo and Juliet just seems silly and appears distant, as even more XOs wouldn’t help make the language seem caring
    •The title is a great pun on the word iambs, which are used in Shakespeare’s original Romeo and Juliet, when its IMs in the title
    •The electronics have seemingly taken over their lives and instead of focusing on what is actually happening outside of the laptops
    •Overall there is a distinct lack of caring about anything, their surroundings, their lives, and their love

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  7. All the typos show that the teenagers don't care and is indicative of the modern, high-paced lifestyle (where little mistakes are overlooked).
    The pyramid or cans, mass of electronics, and the instant messages indicate boredom.
    The messy rooms also show the "i don't care" attitude.
    The difficulty in ending the conversation shows the decline of social skills (possibly as a direct result of the fact that most modern communication in non-verbal).
    The headphones (and the disregard for the messy rooms) could represent how teenagers high use of technology is making them numb or simply unobservant to the world.

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  8. -Two teenagers catching up after school.
    -Typical everyday talk but its been modernized from Shakespearean idea to internet speak.
    - They are somewhat communicating the same thing as in the play “Romeo and Juliet” (Juliet’s parents not liking Romeo and vice versa)
    -“Deny thy father and refuse thy name, Or if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love”. Quote from the play.
    - This signifies how Shakespeare might still be relevant in this day and age as the same problems apply in matters of relationships as they did before
    . - Their I.M’s are in excess of slang and brevity so I get the impression they are just getting into online chatting.
    - When someone is new to a keyboard they have to resort to slang and to get their message across faster.
    - Both have very messy rooms.
    - I cannot ignore the Blink 182 poster in Romeo’s room and the Bjork poster in Juliet’s room. They listen to good music!

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  9. -Two teenagers talking about their day
    - They refer to the play Romeo and Juliet in a comical txt speak teenager way
    -They both show the nonchalance of today’s teenagers
    -In the way they talk about the epic feud that it the Montagues and the Capulets
    - The cartoon speaks to the difference in how romance is actually acted out in todays technology era versus old timey Shakespearian times
    - The xoxo is telling about how today often computer conversation takes place of actual physical face to face conversations. (leading to lack of physical intimacy(sometimes))
    - The lack of social skills is very apparent in the briefness and underdevelopment of the conversation.
    -The comparison of how this conversation is to the actual play, forces us to face the depressing fact of how dumb/uneducated we sound compared to Shakespeare’s characters.

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  10. -The cartoon seems to depict modern version of the story
    -It emphasizes the evolution (or rather, regression) of language
    -The grammar and spelling are poor
    -The cartoon illustrates teenagers of today by showing technology such as computers, cell phones, and stereos
    -It uses parts of the story in the IMs (families hate each other)
    -The xoxo's at the end of the messages show love between the two
    -The rooms are filthy, which seems to show apathy
    -In a way, the xoxo exchange at the end of the conversation seems to represent their deaths and the end of the story, where Juliet fakes her death, Romeo kills himself, then Juliet kills herself.

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  11. -Starts off with Juliet starting the conversation with Romeo instead of the other way around like in the play and real life.
    -Romeo or Juliet don’t seem very poetic or expressive
    -Lives are filled with electronics, not very focused on each other
    -More interested in electronics
    -They are very sloppy with the rooms, language, and school.
    -Don’t care attitudes, with failed exams on the ground, Don’t see why Dad didn’t ground her then
    -Romeo doesn’t go out of his way to see her when he can call her or IM her

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  13. Based off of the cartoon one could say today’s youth is emotionally stunted. This is very apparent by how two characters who should be overly affectionate to the point of exhaustion are portrayed as so distant, nonchalant, and passionless in their conversation. They are so emotionally distant that they can’t even devote enough time to form full words let alone sentences, and god forbid they make the effort to see each other in person. Romeo’s response to Juliet telling him she’s grounded says it all, a simple “y”… You have a single word compared to the pages on pages it would take to contain Shakespearian Romeo’s curiosity. I mean if it’s such a fruitless, and inane task to talk to Juliet “y” bother? Continuing on again at the end of cartoon you see faux affection in the painfully long series of “xoxoxox” directly followed by “gtg” a really solid presentation of indifference. I mean I’ll use “gtg” if I’m running late for something, or talking to someone I really don’t want to continue a conversation with, but to give Romeo a “gtg” is absurd where’s that tried and true parting is such sweet sorrow back and forth we all know and love? Oh right were supposed to be emotionally stunted, we don’t express love very well.

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  14. - The most obvious point of the cartoon on page 282 is that today’s youth cares nothing for proper grammar
    - Throughout the conversation of Romeo and Juliet there is a myriad of grammar mistakes
    - For example: “romeo u there.” Also, “scool sucked 2day.” And, “cardoza called home, sez im failig Spanish btw both my rents hate u.”
    - The author of the cartoon is trying to illustrate, with the IM conversation of Romeo and Juliet, that either the youth in our country do not care for proper grammar or just have forgotten a great deal of what they were taught in school.
    - The author could also be trying to say that the youth in our country are too dependent on modern technology.
    - Both Romeo and Juliet are locked in their room, on their laptop and with earphones around their head.
    - Through the pictures of Romeo and Juliet it could be inferred that the author thinks that the youth of America should be less obsessed with modern technology.

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  15. -The illustration captures the move from the Shakespearian version of the story of Romeo and Juliet to the modern version.
    -Using slan typical of today's teens they still explain the story of love.
    -they explain that there is an explicit disdain for each others parents
    -the modern era compared to the shakspearian era is represented well, maybe signaling a change of times.
    -we no longer feel the need to use complete sentences and proper grammar, and there is an obvious decline in the "romance" of a personal relationship.
    It is much easier to talk to another human without being able to see their emotions clearly.
    -most guys wouldn't take a girl to their extremely cluttered room!! haha

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  16. -bad grades/messy room indicate laziness
    -text speak is impersonal
    - in rooms/ technology has caused isolation from the world
    - passion and emotion is not theree

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